> Intro Practice 12, 13, 14 - Using numbers

> Intro – Practice 12 (group)
Questions (Deshker):
1. Nam-tor nash-gad ra?
2. Nash-gad ___, nam-tor fa-gad ra?
3. Nash-gad ___ t’ ____, fa-gad kinuf ra?
4. Nam-tor oren fa-gad?
5. Nam-tor oren t’gad if?

> Intro – Practice 13 (group)
When is the vulcan study?
It is  __________.

Oren t’vuhlkansu lu?
Nam-tor (ish) _________.

> Intro – Practice 14 (group)
When is your birthday?
My birthday is _______.

Gad t’keshtan t’du lu?
Gad t’keshtan t’nash-veh _______.




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> Intro – Months of the year and days of the week.

> Intro – Months of the year and days of the week.

Months
1 January > Z’at
2 February > D’ruh
3 March > K’riBrax
4 April > re’T’Khutai
5 May > T’ke Khuti
6 June > Khuti
7 July > ta’Krat
8 August > K’ri’lior
9 September > et’Khior
10 October > T’lakht
11 November > T’ke’Tas
12 December > Tasmeen


Days (for English speakers), the days of the week are not listed by VLI, so here are some VLG suggestions.
1 Monday > Y’mon
2 Tuesday > Y’tues
3 Wednesday >  Y’wednes
4 Thursday > Y’thurs
5 Friday > Y’frih
6 Saturday > Y’s’tur
7 Sunday > Y’sun

What would you call the days of the week?
_______________
_______________
_______________
_______________
_______________
_______________
_______________

Note: Days of the week aren’t capitalized unless needed. The first day to the week isn’t known, but generally, after the weekend. Vulcan culture canon is very spiritual and ceremonial, it may be that every day holds religious impact. The word “date” has two translations, kinuf is more common, d’kam is more poetic.

What day is it? == (nam-tor) gad if?
Today is _____ == (nam-tor) nash-gad ____
What is the date? == (nam-tor) kinuf ra?
Which is the date? == (nam-tor) d’kam if?
Today is Monday 1 January 2019 = (nam-tor) nash-gad y’mon 1 z’at 2019
On monday == fi’y’mon (lit. on top of monday)






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> Intro – What’s in the room? (Svi’ret ra?)

> Intro – What’s in the room? (Svi’ret ra?)

> Intro – Practice 8
Make two sentences.

> Intro – Practice 9
What is something you need for class and why?

> Intro – Practice 10
Answer these clues:
1. Use this for math.
2. Write with this.
3. Garbage cans hold this.
4. You need this to study.
5. Used for sitting.
6. This is for notes.
7. It’s used for carrying books.
8. This shows the time.



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> Intro – Practice 7 (homework)

> Intro – Practice 7 (homework)
Write a very short chat with one ore more of these people:
1. Your friend.
2. Your teacher.
3. Your coworker T’Laina.
4. Your doctor.

Challenge 1 & Answer (Kali 1 & Droi)

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That that is is that... (Translation Challenge)

Activity

Came across this translation exercise on ConWorkshop and thought it might interest you guys. Here's the text:

That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is.

That that is, is that that is. Not is not. Is that it? It is.

That that is, is that that is not. Is not 'is that' it? It is.

That that is, is that that is not, 'is not.' Is that it? It is.

How do you guys' languages handle these sentences? Do you end up with a tongue twister like English? Or is there more differentiation?

ANSWER: 

Kaiidth. Ri kaiidth, rik. Kya? Nam-tor.

Kya. Ri rik. Kya? Nam-tor.

Kya rik nam-tor. 'Kya ish' ha? Nam-tor.

Nam, nam-tor ri kya, 'rik.' Kya? Nam-tor.

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EXPLANATION: (hints, clues) 

Kaiidth means "that which is, is." and is central to Vulcan and many C'thia and Surak teachings. Vulcan doesn't use articles like 'the' or 'a' or 'that' with those words being used for clarity in questions. Words inherit value from left to right, dog yellow, the dog is yellow, yellow-dog a more so breed of dog. Logically, irrelevant words are omitted. For double negatives and conundrums such as this, ri (no), rik (prefix without), rik (adjective isn't), are used. Kya, to exist, and nam-tor, to be, are mostly interchangeable, but for "there are" nam-tor is used, and from hypothetical to ideological existence, poetic, using kya. Because of word-inheritance, "that that is" could be typed in full as 'that which is', but is redundant for fluent speakers.

(Kya'i is certainly poetic, emphasizing "I" = now, with even rarer suffix dth.)  

Learner's Note: 

Nam-tor, to be/exist, is used to state definite existence, but will be omitted by more fluent speakers.

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Nam-tor = to be/exist, kya = existence, ri = no/not, rik' = without, kaiidth = that which is, is. 

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source: www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/afgo3u/that_that_is_is_that_translation_challenge/ 

Intro 1: Examples (Li-fal) #

Example (Li-fal), Examples (Li-fallar)

ex 1-1

Sonok: Ha'tha ti'lu, Syrran.
Syrran: Ha'tha ti'lu, Kashau tu uf, Sonok?
Sonok: Rom. Lesek. T'du?
Syrran: Maut-rom. Lesek.

Good-morning, Syrran.
Good-morning, how do you feel, Sonok?
Good. Thanks. Yourself?
Very good, thanks. 

Ha'tha ti'lu = hello; Syrran = male name; kashau = to sense; tu = you; uf = how; Sonok = male name; rom = good; lesek = thanks; t' = of, du = you; maut = very.

ex 1-2

T'luki: Tonk'peh, Valeria, pavesha ra?
Valeria: Tsurik, t'du?
T'luki: Marom, lesek. Rom, abi'fa-gad.
Valeria: Rom-halan.

Hi, Valeria, what's happening?
The regular, and you?
Fine/excellent, thanks. Good, until tomorrow.
Goodbye. 

Tonk'peh = hello; pavesha = to occur/happen; ra = what; tsurik = regular; t' = of; du = you; marom = fine/excellent; lesek = thanks; rom = good; abi' = until; fa-gad = tomorrow; halan = a trip; rom-halan = goodbye; T'luki = female name; Valeria = female name.

ex 1-3

Setnow: Rom aru, Tolaris. panavau tu uf?
Tolaris: Rom, lesek, t'vu, panavau vu, osu?
Setnow: Burun, Tolaris, burun.
Tolaris: Tushah nash-veh k'du.

Good afternoon, Tolaris. How are you doing?
Good, thanks, and you, how are you doing, sir?
Unstable, Tolaris, unstable.
I grieve with you. 

Rom = good, aru = evening; Tolaris = male name, panavau = to pass time; tu = you; uf = how; Setnow = male name; lesek = thanks; t'du = your(s); osu = sir/ma'am; burun = unstable; tushah = a grief; nash-veh = I/me; k' = with; du = you; k'du = with you.

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Intro 1: Introductions (Ragtayalar) #VLG

"We will explore and learn more."

[Dungi-pstha etek heh oren-tor weht.]

Lesson 1 [Tupa 1] 
Sonok: Tonk'peh, nam-tor ahm nash-veh Sonok. Ahm t'du ra?
Syrran: Tonk'peh, ahmau nash-veh t'Syrran.
Sonok: Sochya eh dif.
Syrran: Dif-tor heh smusma.

> translation (mesukh)
Tonk'peh = hello; nam-tor = be/is; ahm = a name; nash-veh = I/me; t'du = your(s); ra = what; ahmau = to name something; t'Syrran = Syrran's; Syrran = male name; Sonok = male name; sochya = peace; eh = and; dif = long life; dif-tor = to live a long time; heh = and; smusma = prosperity.

Sonok: Hello, I'm named Sonok. What is your name?
Syrran: Hello, the name I use is Syrran.
Sonok: Peace and long life.
Syrran: Live long and prosper.

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Vuhlkansu [vulcan] has more than one word for "you," use DU after letters/consonants or if unsure. Use TU after a vowel, and DULAR or TULAR for "you all."
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T'luki: Nam-tor ish-veh Valeria.
Valeria: Tishau, dular. Sarlah nash-veh dvin-tor.
T'luki: Vu dvin dor etwel.

> translation (mesukh)
nam-tor = is/be; ish-veh = he/she/it/this; Valeria = female name; tishau = hello friend(s); sarlah = to come to; nash-veh = I/me; dvin-tor = to serve; vu = you (formal); dvin = service; dor = honor; etwel = us.

T'luki: This is Valeria.
Valeria: Hello, you all. I come to serve.
T'luki: Your service honors us.

Exercise 1 [tusok 1]
Sek (male): Nam-tor ahm ______. Nam-tor ahm t'du ra.
Asil (female):  Nam-tor Asil. _____________.
Sek: _________________.
Asil: Sek, _________________
Sek: __________________.

<< word-list = zhit-feim:
Sek, Asil, sochya eh dif, diftor heh smusma, t', tonk'peh, ish-veh, tishau, nash-veh, nam-tor, sarlah, ahm, dvin, dvin-tor, tu, du, vu. (or any words you know.)

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VU is mostly used by children to adults or in military/education situations to confirm authority, with DU being lower by default. Use VULAR when speaking to an audience of guests during speeches or entertainment.
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